Ellora’s Cave sued again, this time by Fifth Third Bank.

21 Dec

A while back, Christina Brashear of Samhain, sued Ellora’s Cave, including Tina Engler and her mother, because something didn’t smell very fresh with their accounts.

After the defendants dragged their asses for years, the presiding judge handed down an epic slap,¹ and ruled for the plaintiff. (Whether or not Brashear ever saw a penny is unknown).

This time, Fifth Third Bank is suing them, apparently over the infamous, gaudily decorated bus used at conventions.

Personally, I find it…interesting…that no one seems able to find Ellora’s Cave’s principals in order to serve them. Looking at the case detail, it seems there have been several attempts to find them, all failed to date.

Gee, I’m shocked.

Shocked, I tell you.

Wonder how long before the bank, and the court, lose their patience this time.

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Also, courtesy of #notchilled, it seems Ellora’s Cave (or, as they are calling themselves now, EC for Books) is putting some reverted books up for sale again at some vendors.

Did I mention how shocked I am?

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¹ Link courtesy of Deirdre Saoirse Moen

13 Responses to “Ellora’s Cave sued again, this time by Fifth Third Bank.”

  1. Julaine 22/12/2016 at 1:17 AM #

    Nothing, in regards to EC and the actions of its principals, shocks me in the least these days. The company is dying a very ignoble death. I hate to see any publisher fail but the destruction this one leaves in its wake is particularly maddening.

    • azteclady 22/12/2016 at 8:26 AM #

      It is infuriating, particularly how they’ll continue to play victim, and blame the people they have harmed (and continue to harm), for anything and everything they can think of.

  2. Lori 22/12/2016 at 2:22 AM #

    Some corpses just keep reanimating.

  3. bamaclm 22/12/2016 at 4:38 PM #

    And they probably voted for Trump! 😡

    • azteclady 22/12/2016 at 6:10 PM #

      Something else that would not surprise me.

  4. Ariel Hudnall 23/12/2016 at 1:34 AM #

    Oh man, I can hardly remember much about Ellora’s Cave except it was one of the first vanity/predatory presses? And I think it had something to do with contracts? I should probably just Google it… 🤗

    • azteclady 23/12/2016 at 7:42 AM #

      Well, you can start by reading “Ellora’s Cave, Dear Author, the Streisand Effect, and Freedom of Speech,” right here.

      • Ariel Hudnall 23/12/2016 at 12:37 PM #


      • azteclady 23/12/2016 at 12:48 PM #

        I probably should have warned you: rabbit hole ahead! (there’s over a decade’s worth of rumblings about EC’s principals, after all)

        Sorry ’bout that.

      • Ariel Hudnall 23/12/2016 at 1:17 PM #

        That’s okay, haha. I have time today! 😬

      • Ariel Hudnall 23/12/2016 at 2:08 PM #

        And now it all comes crashing back. Last I read the Dear Author blog, they were still in the middle of the suit. I should probably see if there have been any updates on this. Thank you for the links!

      • azteclady 23/12/2016 at 4:15 PM #

        There are updates: they settled late last year.

        Authors and others who are owed money have not seen a penny so far, though; and EC’s principals sent a mass email about closing their doors at the end of this year.

        What I don’t know is if, under their new “EC for Books” moniker, they are still taking in submissions and scamming writers who don’t bother researching–but, once again, I would not be shocked to hear that they are.

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